More Steps…

The distribution of needs (and wants) via advance machine automation shall be based upon available resources. I believe that Jacque Fresco was the first to come up with that idea. Unfortunately, (I think) he believes that this money system has to first collapse. But there is absolutely NO way we could all deal with that unless we ALL are willing to work for free to maintain current infrastructure (water, sewer, food supplies, electrical, and internet, not to mention the million other industries that these depend on). On top of that, we would ALSO have to work (for free) to build the needed machine economy.

Perhaps “scarcity” IS needed until these machines are in place AND have a well worked out supporting infrastructure. In otherwords, we will HAVE to work within today’s money system, or perish due to financial collapse.
That means training “everyone” (including ourselves) to be able to achieve a series of objectives, each of which are seemingly insurmountable, in today’s society!

Following is “my” agenda:
1, Promote awareness that we ALL must agree on a “best fit plan”.

2, To ALL agree on the “best” form of clean energy and only concentrate on any source that can rival fossil fuels (the only 2 options that fit this criteria are solar and advanced, LFTR type nuclear). We can NOT continue to emit XS CO2 into the very air the biosphere depends on at this time.

3, Since, working within the money system is still mandatory at this stage, choose the solar option (and because of concerns about nuclear risks) so as to create (literally) hundreds of thousands of sq mi of global solar installation jobs. (We may have to make sure that whatever the collection medium is, it is made so it is not too dark in color, as we don’t want to much sunlight being converted into excess infrared!). This will help “continue” the workability of the money system up to a certain point in time where machines are (also) capable to complete the install process. This happens once trucks drive themselves and when human operated drilling machines etc, operate themselves. We must ALL also agree to dis-enable laws that prohibit necessary mining and resource extraction which is ESSENTIAL for the planning, development, and completion of the solar infrastructure. It is also essential for the building of molten salt and metals electricity storage facilities (which are basically giant pools of such placed in an environmentally safe and strategic manner!)

4, To ALL be reminded that machines will displace human jobs at an ever accelerating pace, and thus make null and void, the money system (which sustains human security) unless machine made profits are distributed BACK to the populations at large.

5, To ALL agree to distribute profits made from machine based suppliers to the people, equally, which is REQUIRED in order to give people the ability to implement the next steps. Some people call this “the basic income guarantee” or BIG.

6, To ALL continue to support research and development of the machinery AND infrastructure required to provide necessities according to environmentally sound resource extraction methods. Also to ALL agree on building cities which best accommodates the efficient machine distribution of resources. (They would be machine built highrise 3D structures with most infrastructure, including transportation built in). This would entail “digging” deep below the biosphere, into the crust for most of the raw ingredients. This, in turn, requires a re-writing of silly enviro laws against mining, etc at the get go, as we can NOT afford fashionable retorts and trivialism to squander our destiny, which is survival past basic needs and the conscious ability to want others to have the same.

7, Realize that at this stage of advanced machine automation, evolve a way to socially transition away from the archaic money system which was needed to build civilization up to this point. This can only happen when machines (and still some willingness to work for free) can distribute and maintain needed (and wanted) resources.

8, The sky is then the limit. There will no longer be a need to mine the Earth at all. Yet tens of billions of additional souls will be able to thrive without having to deal with today’s archaic traffic and political configurations.

The birth of new social systems…   …   …   …   …   …   …   Enable the space based race!

“Now” is NOT the time. We do NOT have the machines capable. We do NOT yet have the collective empathy (or wanting to understand from another’s point of view). We do NOT have the social skills to become de-polarized towards each and every “little” whim. Now is NOT the time to promote “getting rid of” the money system!

It appears like “baby steps”, therefore step 3 is the prescription for the solution to all of our problems. 100,000 square miles of global solar installation jobs will only offset the rapid advance of machine displacement. Of course, the collection media must be made by machine in order to be cheap enough to create all those extra human jobs. This gives humanity more time to collectively realize the very important next step, that of transitioning to equal resource distribution within, and then independent of, the money system.

Steps to Clean Energy

The internet has polarized people to demand clean energy, even at the expense of cutting current energy supply. It is understandable that we “stop the pipeline” but it is also understandable why not to “stop the pipeline”. We need energy to keep the (growing) economy running and to invest in the new and clean(er) technologies. We must:

Identify the least expensive way to the safest and most abundant clean energy option.

Quickly, to those that hear a story suggesting that global warming is not real or is simply not happening because of humanity, I must ask you to learn why it warms the biosphere. Excess CO2 is a very real thing. CO2 is an infrared absorber. An infrared photon (which is heat in electromagnetic form) that would otherwise escape into outer space, will now be intercepted by that excess CO2 molecule, absorbed, and then re-emitted (in any direction). If there is more CO2 in the atmosphere, then there will be more infrared bouncing back to Earth (to melt the ice caps past natural levels and warm the oceans which cause greater strength of storms). Excess CO2 may actually be damaging the oceans in a process called ocean acidification. NOAA

This is why it’s not cool to mess with Mother Nature. I ask “why take a chance”

We need to become polarized without all the hype.

Phase One: Agree on a Realistic Plan..

Phase Two: Promote Awareness

Phase Three: Implement the Plan.

Phase One is only partially (and very inconsistently) complete. Currently, most of us agree on different ways to implement clean energy. Some believe that conservation alone is good enough (nope, even though it is good to conserve!). Some believe that current solar technology is good enough (nope, still too expensive!). And some believe in magic (such as schemes that promise more energy output than what is available in the first place. These have to identified and flagged!). We must become part of a holistic and very large group of people who all agree to collaborate upon a BEST solution. We should already know that XSCO2 isn’t good. We all should know that fossil fuels are also finite, yet that there is most likely enough to dig up and burn to accelerate global warming past a safe level. We all should know which of the clean energy technologies are capable of entirely replacing fossil fuels, given the effort. And we should all know which are not quite capable, even at great expense. This means we need to all learn the energy densities and the potential of each option. In example, we should all know that not only is corn ethanol barely self sustaining (if that), but that it would take vast amounts of land (like on the order of fifteen times that of solar).

We can all agree that 2+2=4, just as “all” scientists agree on very complicated but proven theories. It is now time for the general public to become informed and agree upon self evident clean energy phenomena, because it will be the general public that has the potential to create the huge tide of intent necessary to implement a plan and action. Sure, there will be questionable attributes to the BEST clean energy path, but this is where a forum must be set up which, first discusses, then proves (by search and by mathematical conjecture) the attributes of each and every clean energy option available. For example, when a newbie says “corn ethanol is the best”, he would be directed to already posted attributes which has already been refined by facts and suggestion text. From there, that person would be welcomed to further explore, contribute AND thanked for being interested in the clean energy debate. After all, we all were newbies at one time or another!

All the various different attributes of each clean energy option must be listed. The Energy Returned On Energy Invested, current costs, resource availability, geographical availability, enviro detriment, and etc must be searched, proven and logged.

Machine automation is a key player in the future of any large scale renewable energy efforts. Therefore, entire lengths will be devoted to just that.

Image is from Adept

Most abundant clean energy options must contain a forum on how to automate with machines.

Considering nuclear, ONLY reactor designs that can not melt down are to be allowed on the table. The current fleet of LWR’s (and their kind) should be allowed to phase out through attrition due to their dangerous mix of water, fuels and heat (and inefficiency).

There will be many steps to each phase, such as that there should be more than one source for information regarding Phase One. Links to many other forums, such as Energy from Thorium must be available.

After Phase One is complete, we need to implement Phase Two, the actual awareness campaign. This is best done using experts in the field of viral marketing. A catchy slogan (or a constantly changing array of catchy slogans) may be used. Also, everybody will be instructed to post updates to their social media, call friends, and even organize “house parties”, etc. I believe there is never too much awareness (once the BEST option is found). I would personally like to pass out “business” cards, too.

I do not have the expertise to even suggest how to implement Phase Three, just that it is more probable after Phase One is complete.  Phase One can only be successful by fulfilling the following:

Identify the least expensive way to the safest and most abundant clean energy option.

Only then can actual business plans be written for all the various different steps of Phase Three, the implementation of the BEST plan. I would hope that by this time, the members of this collaboration (and others) would number into the millions and then incorporate and invest.

We must collaborate today to make clean energy cheap enough to implement tomorrow.

Thank you.

The Resource Based Economy

The coming age of machine exponentiation will usher in a wonderful world IF present social structures would allow.

I REALLY WISH Jacque Fresco’s plans for a Resource Based Economy would materialize… This is an idea where food, water, housing, transportation, information, entertainment and every other aspect of life is distributed based on the efficient extraction of ecologically sound available resources… rather than distributed based on the money system.

Everything would be free (and mass produced by machine).

However, I believe the transition simply can not take place unless we all become undivided (and seek this common goal).

Perhaps after the financial fall? Highly doubtful because after a “fall”, there will be many delays and thus decay in the very infrastructure, such as maintenance for all the pipes, lines, energy and food supplies… everything we depend on with multiple negative feedbacks with each successive broken link.
How will we convert over to the (much better) RBE when there’s no money to keep up the supply lines (and the internet)?

Besides, top leaders “know” where the fall will take us which, based on current trends, looks to be a global corporate controlled authoritarianism devoid of family rights, constitutional rights, etc… or worst (or maybe better if the leaders choose to have a heart). They will be the FIRST to receive any of the tech benefits such as implanted night vision, sight magnification, exoskeletons, 3d printers (for food, medicines and energy production) etc, etc. And they may come to the conclusion that “they are better than us” if (their) new fancy machines prove that they don’t need us anymore for profit.

The only way towards a RBE via (our) advanced machinery is if everyone is all of a sudden willing to work for free towards (and only for!) that common goal which includes being willing to work for free to keep up the common infrastructure (and maintain food and water supplies) until such time that a complete RBE is built, suitable to let go of “the old infrastructure” and its maintenance. Then people will still have to work for perfecting the science and the machinery.

Reality has it that we are mostly all divided… and even polarized… because of easy access to the internet… towards FAR too many important and trivial matters. Even though the resource based economy IS the best way and will solve ALL of “the” problems (and more), people will not realize or even want to realize this.
Therefore, there will be many people (like me) who have doubts based simply on this psychology.

Polls probably show that over half of the people still believe in politics… if their side is winning. There is hope only after “we all know” that NO side wins under politics as usual except for the profiteers (who do so at the expense of other people, and now, the biosphere).

Yet there is a very BIG stumbling block called personal property. Even “I” don’t want to give up my, uh well, (if I owned a house) my property! You see, there may have to be a “fall” in order to convince people to give up on million dollar homes and fancy cars and such. So, this fall will have to coordinated such that the infrastructure itself remains intact… if we are to transition within current social structures. Even the thought of this is cruel as it deprives people of their everyday expectations of the way they think they should live out their lives (so no planned sparingly economic collapses, please!).

How many of us would be willing to become a slave to the RBE than to the current system of financial worry, rush, liability, inefficiency, degradation, deprivation, and even children SEPARATED from rightful parents under false pretenses in exchange for that almighty dollar (yes, here in AMERICA, it happened WITHOUT WARNING to my children, their mother and I simply because of my “inconsistent alcoholic consumption!).

I haven’t given up all hope….There IS an incentive, if we are able to overcome the psychological barriers and what seems could be fierce opposition from party lines. Most people have empathy and would rather not see bad things happen to their neighbor despite being conditioned to believe that all the underlining aspects of anger are normal and natural, that government interference is helpful, even under extreme measures, and that they may have to take shortcuts in their occupations… just to compete and be able to continue to support their families in the wake of free trade, speaking of which, also appears to be an equal opportunity for other countries. Another requirement is that of enticing the wealthy and the elite to allow the RBE within the current monetary system. At first glance, this seems impossible, however, the coming age of machines will allow for such integration without the need for the wealthy to continue to profit from us

Again, I have not given up hope… Perhaps the RBE can be started elsewhere, too (like on an island), as a seed that grows exponentially…

(EDIT: about a day later);

Also, it may be possible to materialize through evolution of this money system…

It seems highly unlikely within this system to implement the RBE, however it will be IMPOSSIBLE to achieve the wonderful goal of a RBE without this system.

Why?

Because without this system, there will be almost NO way to communicate, eat, drink water, etc (unless already living off the grid on a farm).

Please read the following, especially the COMMENTS from “Curt” concerning a basic income guarantee (or BIG) which distributes (machine created) wealth to everyone. (It contains interesting dialog within its vast pages).

http://singularityhub.com/2009/12/15/martin-ford-asks-will-automation-lead-to-economic-collapse/#comment-59508

I’ve commented also, concerning the necessity of machine created clean energy and battery parts.

I believe that we must work within current systems (and the concept of the BIG) in order to create the machinery necessary to establish a RBE…

before the current INFRASTRUCTURE COLLAPSES (due to financial meltdown).

Please inform me if I am mistaken about this seemingly most obvious concern.

Thank you,

Robert Bernal, clean energy advocate

What’s the future of Mankind?

It’s a quick survey I made (well, actually, SurveyMonkey did it).

Just a few questions to ponder

I believe that the single most important tech is in making machine made parts for pennies on the dollar.

Concentrate on the following…

Following is just another thought on just another blog…

It would be an awesome feat to use solar concentrating optics for the heat required to manufacture the energy intensive renewable energy parts, such as batteries and solar cells. Nevertheless, I would assume that the amount of energy that ANY rechargeable battery could store, after adding up all the cycles, would far outweigh the initial energy expense. One needs to do an accurate energy audit before assuming EROEI is less than a favorable ratio, such as 10 to 1 (such as solar, is). Even 2 to 1 is still twice as good as well, nothing, after the biosphere is altered and economic possibilities ruined by fossil fueled depletion…

Such new advances make possible that any region in the world need not be turned into politically sensitive ones, caused by lack of proper resource distribution of elements (such as lithium).

Therefore, with science (and God?), cures for such things as cancer and countless other necessary social endeavors, could be more readily focused upon and achieved in the absence of resource WARS, economic RUIN and GLOBAL warming due to continued lack of action to implement (the already TECH ready) clean energy mass production via machine automation, 24/7 for pennies on the dollar.

Important Notice!

!!! Important notice about our future !!!

Clean energy is essential to sustain a growing planetary civilization. Energy is what fuels industry, food and water, entertainment, as well as hope and prosperity.

Widespread fossil fuels usage is causing global warming via the infrared absorption nature of CO2. Regardless, fossil fuels will not remain adequate to sustain civilization unless they are used to build the next energy infrastructure before they become depleted. Peak oil is based on the real numbers of accelerating use. Peak oil threatens to collapse civilization as we know it.

Wind and solar can not yet power civilization because we do not have the production facilities capable of making the 100,000 square miles of solar panel material, the millions of giant wind turbines, and the billions of batteries necessary. Yet, these are possible if mass produced in advanced robotic factories for pennies on the dollar.

Meanwhile, a decades old (and proven) technology is available which can provide more than enough electricity to power “everything” and a world full of electric cars. This technology is based on nuclear fission using molten fuels and coolants such as the Integrated Fast Reactor and the Liquid fluoride Thorium Reactor.

However, we can NOT base our future on conventional light water reactors (water cooled reactors or LWR)!
Water is not an ideal coolant. If the power goes out and if the emergency generators run out of fuel or are destroyed, the solid fuel will evaporate the water away or get so hot that the water turns into explosive hydrogen. Then the solid fuel gets so hot, it melts down and emits thousands of times the radioactivity in a containment that is no longer able to contain.

Worse yet is the necessity to keep water available to cool the many tons of (un)spent wastes! Other disadvantages include high pressure, very low efficiency and thus very long radioactive decay times for large amounts of (un)spent wastes. Water, heat, radioactive fuel and high pressures obviously do not make for passive safety. These also do not allow for the efficient conversion of more than just a few percent of the fuel into energy.

Therefore, the LWR can NOT power humanity past peak oil.

Even though, this dangerous type of nuclear reaction has been proven to be the safest source of energy. Yes, even safer than wind and solar! This is because more people die from falling from heights in the Renewable Energy field than who die from nuclear.

However, if just one serious lWR accident happens, its safety record could change for the worse.

Continued fossil fuel use is not the answer. Vastly more people die as a result of fossil fuel pollution than all other energy related fields combined.

The biosphere (which supports ALL LIFE) itself is at risk because excess CO2 will cause ocean acidification and melt the icecaps!

This is why we need to build nuclear reactors based on molten fuels. The IFR and the LFTR do not require high pressure, do not require water and they also convert the fuel into almost 100% energy. No meltdowns are possible and much less wastes are involved. In fact this is the ONLY technology that exists at this time which can power (a growing) humanity beyond fossil fueled depletion for over a thousand years.

Yes, molten fuel based reactors can power humanity for over a thousand years!

Energy is the basis of peace and prosperity, let’s make it clean and unlimited…

Please search and consider talking about IFR and/or LFTR nuclear to your friends. The future is counting on it!

Respectfully,
fireofenergy, clean energy advocate.

P.S
This is the link to “The Integral Fast Reactor – Summary for Policy Makers”. It also contains quite interesting discussion by avid supporters of the liquid fluoride thorium reactor, including Kirk Sorensen. Check it out!

MY VISION OF UTOPIA…

Clean sources of energy and social skills MUST be extrapolated by virtue of their possibility, at least to their already, albeit sparingly, proven possibility.
We CAN efficiently sustain billions of happy humans… but we won’t.

The fact that the department of energy has (quite literally) abandoned a path to progress in favor of just dig’n more fossils substantiates a belief that “inability” is a planned event, to ever increase wealth and power within a system designed on fossil fuels, with the exception of Moore’s law.

Moore’s law enables machine automation which is indeed a real game changer (and about to happen coincidentally at the peak of oil). One that could’ve ushered in a type of utopia (by use of a different social system?), but most probably will cause massive unemployment (within this system).

Eventually, machines will make everything and thus the PERCEIVED energy shortage will become a cruel reality for a seemingly excess population and all their children that will (by that time) have no means to make a living, because corporate conglomerations will own the land, the water, the “remaining” energy and, of course, their fancy machines.

Do to an inability to implement proven clean energy on a grand scale, and due to the lack of overall vision and action (except as in a WWII scenario) to collectively address machine evolution within dinosaur social systems, this is my nightmarish vision of “utopia”.

Everything else is trivial in comparison

To Whom it may concern,

Increased productivity through UNLIMITED CLEAN ENERGY should be the number one goal, no matter what. The quickest way is through the liquid fluoride thorium reactor (LFTR) as proven at ORNL 50 years ago to be a promising alternative.

No need for energy stalemates and fossil fueled depletion which threaten maintaining cutting edge defense capabilities.

Preventing excess CO2 and ocean acidification by seriously reducing carbon emissions is critical, if we are to prevent the next oceanic anoxic event.

Physicists suggest that the ONE MILLION times concentration of energy from nuclear is the easiest and quickest way to convert over from hydrocarbons, HOWEVER, not any nuclear is suitable for widespread global use, especially, today’s inherently dangerous light water reactors.

A much better reactor design uses a molten mix which prevent any chances of meltdown or hydrogen explosions, which burns the fuel efficiently, who’s fuel does not need enrichment, and which can actually burn spent waste. Therefore, less waste is created from LFTR even as the living standards of BILLIONS of people can be brought up to decent standards.

 

Everything else is just trivial in comparison except for the increased economic productivity that results from unlimited, (almost) clean electricity and its conversion to liquid fuels and or batteries.

Thank you for your consideration.

“Far out” Machine-ism

If we extracted just 1/10th of 1% of the lithium in the oceans, we would have enough to build some 18 Billion Tesla (electric car) type batteries… (search “Karen Pease ocean lithium”)
If we used thorium in a molten salt reactor (which was proven back in the 1960′s at ORNL) we would have unlimited (almost) clean energy…
And if we used the same type of machines used to crank out the petro based vehicles to make the batteries we would be able to afford to save the biosphere from ourselves.
But the hardest thing to do is the collective action thing… because TV rules the world.

We are not quite ready to “stop growing”, even in the face of all the problems associated with it. Eventually, we will have to figure out how to live sustainably, without any additional growth. Fossil fueled depletion into an overheated world need not apply, but is our only option if we continue with the capitalist (or any other “ism” based) social systems known today. However, we must continue hope for a new system to emerge that does not base resources on a bottom line achieved only by the cheapest wage countries, one that does not create inferior products made from (cheaper) non-environmentally conscious extraction methods, and one that does not have to impose rations on the global population due to its eventual folly.

This new system could be called “A machine economy based on the efficient extraction and distribution of resources devoid of profit”. At first, factories that use advanced machine automation create “things” that require installation jobs. Solar panels and batteries fit the bill. Since these things would be created for almost free, 24/7, installers fill the unemployment gap and industrialism begins anew in ALL parts of the world within current systems. As automation continues, everyone begins to receive “benefits” by virtue of their existence. Free water, free food, free housing… free entertainment and air! Actually, in a world where automation creates unemployment, these become OUR RIGHTS!

You see, if we can automate the infrastructure (and use electric cars, hydroponics, leds, etc, for more energy efficiency) we can do away with the notion of DIE OFFS due to economic collapse. People, instead go to work on coordination in order to, at first maintain and tech upgrade the infrastructure… for free (because, at some point in time, there will be no money due to the collapse of present economic systems) and then, to completely automate almost “everything else”. Machines build themselves, they build buildings out of, say, carbon graphine and machines make room for the environment too by relying on a newly created electrical infrastructure based upon natural gas, algae, solar, wind and batteries…

And, ultimately, by LFTR, the far better way to split the atom. Yes, it will take the awesome power of a type of reactor invented wholly fifty years ago to enable the steady state comprising upwards of 50 billion people without ration!

Only in this way can humanity fulfill the need to grow and at the same time, REDUCE degradation.

S.U.P.E.R.

Substance abuse prevention.

Undeniable rights.

Personal spending preferences.

Economical, energy and environmental awareness.

Regaining jobs by use of balanced trade tariffs on cheap wage countries.

We really have to address substance abuse, as this must be the leading cause of pain, suffering and in this case, partial illiteracy and scientific waning. The recognition of undeniable rights for all people must prevail in order to build positive social change across the globe. Personal spending choices are the best way to vote as moneys directed towards anti-local job interests and continued business as usual (BAU) rob western economies and may also keep less well to do geopolitical areas from ever achieving the means for their betterment. The three “E’s”, economic, energy, and environment, are bound together offering a glimpse into hell (for all nations) if not addressed. And the rebuilding of industrial might by enacting a balanced tariff on China, etc, would create needed jobs, thus an attainment of capital needed to meet the challenges of sustaining planetary civilization long enough to develop fusion power and space colonization for all geopolitical areas.

So that humanity can realize that God is not just another form or precessor of science and to learn the purpose of our existence…

This is the scratch pad for the SUPER plan. I hope for collaboration to build a foundation that correctly lists the actions needed to implement and strengthen each of these vital steps. I urge everyone to become involved, somehow, in one or more of these (or other) positive actions.